Armée Sud-Africaine

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SAPS-Special Task Force (FS-Police) :

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SAPS-Special Task Force (FS-Police) :

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Les armes utilisées par la "SAPS" :

Le fusil d'assault R5 :

Le fusil d'assault R5 (Rifle 4=Fusil mle 4) est une version du Galil Israelien produite sous licence en Afrique du Sud pour armer les SADF et la police en remplacement des R1 et R2 Les R5 et R6 en sont des variantes militaires plus compactes.

Le fusil d'assault R6:

Le fusil d'assault R1 :

VeKtor Z-88 :

The Vektor Z-88 is a licensed copy of the Beretta 92M92 that originated from Lyttleton Ingenieurswerke (LIW) in Pretoria. The Beretta 92 model was designed in 1975 and only 5000 units of the original prototype were manufactured until it was taken off the market a year later. However, it is being manufactured in three different calibers (92 series in 9 x 19 Parabellum, 96 series in .40 S&W and 98 series in 9 x 21 mm IMI) and four different shooting options (FS, G, D and DS) even now. Apart from Vektor, the Brazilian gun manufacturers Taurus make a copy called the Taurus PT-92.

Vektor is a South African manufacturer of various pistols for military and law enforcement purposes. It was incorporated in 1953 and was privatized in 1997. Vektor exports its products to the US via Vektor USA. The Vektor Z-88 is manufactured under license from the Italian firearm specialists Beretta and is, as already stated, based on one of their most famous handguns. In fact, many of the parts such as the barrel are interchangeable with the Beretta 92. The Vektor Z-88 is presently being used by the South African Military and police. Being locally produced in South Africa, the Vektor Z-88 was not, until recently, for sale in America. However, it is now learnt that this handgun has been made available for civilian use in the US.
It is a double-action handgun that chambers 9 mm Parabellum rounds. It features a magazine that accommodates 15 rounds in staggered format. The magazine is equipped with a reversible release button. The Vektor Z-88 also incorporates the falling block short recoil locking system and has a manually operated safety de-cocking lever and a slide catch. The front and rear sights on this handgun are crafted in titrium and are luminous, facilitating nighttime shooting. Shooters claim that the Vektor Z-88 is superior to the Beretta 92 because it has a better trigger pull and is, generally speaking, of much higher quality than the original.
There is very little information available on the Vektor Z-88, possibly owing to ambiguities as far as its legality in the United States is concerned. The fact that it is an official sidearm for South African armed personnel could also have thrown a political shadow over it, which would certainly make helpful insights into specifications and local availability hard to come by. For further information on availability of the Vektor Z-88 in the United States, it is best to contact the importing and distributing company Vektor USA directly.

MP5 :

MP5-SD :

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1978 : sur commande du ministère de l’information sud-africain, Abbas alors en reportage, se rend dans un centre de formation pour policiers noirs dont les autorités sud-africaines sont très fières. Le photographe ne sent pas le sujet mais accepte, il n’a pas vraiment le choix. Et là, il va prendre « La » photo symbole de la ségrégation sud africaine.
Au premier plan, le colonel, rigide, regard métallique avec son « stick » coincé sous l’aisselle, derrière, les élèves noirs, torses nus en baskets et en shorts.
La surprise, le choc et le désappointement des responsables sud africains qui s'estimèrent trahis, furent immenses.
« Cette photo nous a fait plus de mal qu’une division ennemie » dira à l'époque l’ambassadeur d’Afrique du Sud en France.

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Un commando de la police en pleine intervention

Un Noir à genoux a été brûlé vif par des émeutiers

Des policiers, dont un Blanc, viennent à son aide

Un policier blanc tente d’éteindre le feu qui le consumme

Un policier indien monte la garde en attendant l’ambulance
A l’arrière-plan, des curieux
L’homme succombera à ses blessures dans la soirée

Des policiers à Ramaphosa

Un policier à Reiger Park

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Vedette du type RPB 20 livrée au South African Police Service.

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Spoiler:

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Johannesburg:

La capitale Sud Africaine Pretoria :

Durban :

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Y a pas de mystère c'est bien la première puissance économique d'Afrique Smile

et de loin Wink

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Tout les membres doivent respecter la Charte du Forum

Citation:

Explosive arms deal documents

PAUL KIRK

JOHANNESBURG - Former President Thabo Mbeki, the man who was in overall charge of the arms deal, favoured arms merchants known for their tendency to pay bribes and then agreed to pay inflated prices for equipment that the military simply did not want.

Damning documents obtained by The Citizen last week show that Mbeki ignored his own experts who had ruled that a rival Spanish warship offered better military value than the exorbitantly expensive German product the Navy eventually bought. :idea:

The contract should therefore have been awarded to the Spanish who convincingly won the frigate contract using the procurement formula the Department of Defence had agreed upon.

Mbeki has never launched any action for defamation against the media who published claims that he pocketed a $20 million bribe from the German frigate consortium. These claims were first made in a report compiled by US- based risk-analysis company Kroll.

Kroll had obtained this information from a senior National Intelligence Agency official, who subsequently died in a car crash.

The documents may well open the way for Spanish company Bazan to launch legal action against the state. However, The Citizen has not been able to contact Bazan's representatives....Entre d'autres choses parce que bazan n'existe pas déjà Laughing

By awarding the contract to the Germans, Mbeki ignored the Constitution, which lays down that procurement must be done in a way that is fair, transparent and cost-effective.

Terry Crawford-Browne, the SA president of Economists Allied for Arms Reduction, told The Citizen that he was studying the documents.

Crawford-Browne said: "It's clear that throughout the deal we favoured people who were known to pay bribes. What people must realise is that prices are inflated in order to cover the costs of bribes. The taxpayer pays for corruption, not the arms merchant."

Former chairman of the Standing Committee on Public Accounts (Scopa), Gavin Woods, said that while serving as chair of Scopa he had seen clear evidence that the arms dealers who had won contracts as part of the controversial arms deal had inexplicably inflated their prices when supplying equipment to the SANDF.

Woods said: "The government has thus far tried its best to whitewash the arms deal, but I don't believe they have succeeded. These latest documents simply prove serious irregularities in yet another aspect of the arms deal."Â€Â

Woods resigned as chair of Scopa after the ANC used its parliamentary majority to prevent the Heath Special Investigating Unit from being part of the arms deal probe.

The unit, chaired by Judge Willem Heath, was the sole law enforcement body that had the legal powers to set aside the arms deal contracts that had already been signed.

During the acquisition process for the jet fighters and trainers for the South African Air Force, the recommendations of the SAAF were ignored and former Defence Minister Joe Modise forced the SAAF to buy BAe jet trainers rather than the cheaper Italian aircraft the SAAF actually wanted.

Modise also forced the SAAF to buy Gripen fighters despite the fact that they had no need for them. The existing Cheetah C fighters had just been taken into service and were scheduled to remain in use for at least another decade.

These aircraft have now all been effectively grounded as the SAAF, crippled by the acquisition costs of the Gripen and Hawk, cannot afford to operate their only supersonic fighter jet. Effectively, South Africa has no air force at present.

Fana Hlongwane was, at the time of the Hawk and Gripen deals, Modise's special advisor and close personal friend. Hlongwane was the subject of a series of search-and-seizure raids earlier this month when the Scorpions raided his homes and offices seeking evidence of arms deal bribery.

Hlongwane owns a fleet of luxury cars and several mansions, all purchased after BAe won the Hawk and Gripen contracts.

The documents obtained by The Citizen show that the German warships offered slightly better military performance than the much cheaper Spanish ship, which was ruled to have "the best mobility, operability, growth potential, layout, accommodation and habitability features".

In June 2008 an SA Navy legal services report was leaked to the media showing that the navy was not able to operate the exorbitantly expensive German frigates because of financial constraints.

Andrew Feinstein, the ANC representative on Scopa, was demoted by his party after backing Woods and demanding that the Heath Unit probe the deal.

Feinstein said: "It seemed to me that we favoured those who were prepared to pay the biggest bribes, regardless of the real value of the equipment."

http://www.citizen.co.za/index/article.aspx?pDesc=85294,1,22[/quote]

SALUDOS!!

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"TU REGERE IMPERIO FLUCTUS, HISPANE MEMENTO"

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SAPS Special Task Force

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SAS Mendi

SAS Isandlwana

SAS Spioenkop

SAS Umkontho

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ATE Land Vehicle Division a été demantelé

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Land Vehicle Division

The ATE Group has decided to concentrate its activities in Aviation Products and hence to close non-core business activities such as the Land Vehicle Division.
In parallel, a new Aviation Division has been started where investments in resources from the ATE Group can be better optimized.

Division Véhicules

Le Groupe ATE a decidé de concentrer ses activités dans les produits d’aviation et, par consequent, a fermé les activités qui ne font pas partie de ce domaine comme la Division Véhicules.
En parallèle, une nouvelle division a été crée, la Division d’Aviation, où les investissements du Groupe ATE peuvent être mieux optimisés

http://www.ate-aerospace-group.com/popnews.php?id=94

le groupe de defense qui nous est si sympathique prefère se concentrer sur l'aeronautique et apparement il y aurait un Algerien aux commandes ( un transfuge de l'AAF ?)

SAFIR Shocked

Citation:

A New Adventure in ATE

ATE is starting a new Aviation Division based in its Aix-en-Provence establishment. This Division will be headed by Mr. Boussad Ameur, our Chief Aircraft Designer, and will operate under the Fixed Wing structure of the ATE Group. The ‘SAPHIR’, a very new and innovative project for light civilian aircraft, will naturally be nurtured from within this division. ATE and its management are very pleased to have this opportunity to concentrate on its core business of Aviation Products.

UNE NOUVELLE AVENTURE POUR ATE
La Division Aviation du Groupe ATE, tout récemment créée en Novembre 2008, est née de l’esprit insufflé par les pères fondateurs du Groupe qui souhaitent recentrer ATE dans l’aéronautique, sa vocation originelle. Cette division, travaillant en collaboration étroite avec la Division Fixed Wing, aura en charge l’étude, la fabrication et la commercialisation d’avions de conception innovante. En coopération avec certains cadres du Groupe depuis une dizaine d’années, le concepteur principal du produit, Mr Ameur, a souhaité s’adosser à un groupe aéronautique pour conforter la pérennité de son activité. La volonté du Groupe ATE d’affirmer sa vocation aéronautique a fait le reste et a conduit à la création de cette nouvelle Division. La Division Aviation est basée à Aix –en-Provence. Le développement de cette activité dans la région PACA est un choix stratégique du Groupe et sera, nous en sommes sûrs, générateur d’emplois.

http://www.ate-aerospace-group.com/popnews.php?id=91

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sans haine et sans pitié

l'armée sud africaine est elle "meilleur" que celle de l'algerie? en therme de qualité du materiel et de la formation du personel?

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'"Nous devons nous méfier d’une influence non justifiée, qu’elle soit voulue ou non, par le complexe militaro-industriel. Le risque d’un accroissement funeste des abus de pouvoir existe et persistera. Ne laissons jamais le poids de ce complexe mettre en danger nos libertés ou notre démocratie."

17 janvier 1961, le président Eisenhower a propos du lobby militaro-industriel aux USA.

Crois moi T800 je l'ai vu il y a 2 heures sur le site d'ATE et j'ai été étonné par le non de l'avion,
le nom de du PDG et par la différence entre notre Saphir et celui d'ATE

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Spoiler:

je craint que notre rêve (notre avion nationale ) vient d'être délocaliser Sad

avant même de voir le jour Sad

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