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Jul 28, 2011
"Orizzonte Sistemi Navali", a joint venture of Fincantieri and Selex Sistemi Integrati, has been awarded a contract by the Ministry of Defence of the People's Democratic Republic of Algeria to build a landing and logistical support vessel for the Algerian Navy.
The unit will in fact be derived from the design of the San Giusto and San Marco LPD class. But in terms of operational capabilities it will be very enhanced compared to the Italian Navy amphibious assault units .
90% of the ship will be built at Fincantieri shipyards : in Muggiano of La Spezia and in those of Riva Trigoso, while Seastema will be responsible for the integration of on-board systems Finmeccanica companies will be involved in communications command and control and combat systems
The value of the contract is about 400,000,000 euros.
Algeria has left the uncomfortable status of coastal marine to become a deep sea navy

Caractéristiques techniques :


Jane's Navy International magazine article by Luca Peruzzi :
The program BDSL (Bâtiment de Débarquement et de Soutien Logistique) :

-Total displacement = 8800 tons
-Length = 142.9 meters
-Width = 21.5 meters
-Flight deck with two runways and landing pads for heavy-lift helicopters in the extremities and 30-ton lift in the central part of the deck
-The power plant includes two diesel engines Wärtsilä 12V32 rated at 6000 kW
-The maximum speed = 20 knots
-Cruising range = 11,265 km
-Generation of electricity will be provided by four diesel generators Isotta Fraschini V1716 C2ME capacity of 1300 kW and one emergency V1708 T3 of 600 kW
-Armament includes MBDA SAAM-ESD (Aster missiles + A50 launcher Sylver) behind the island superstructure + Oto Melara 76/62 Super Rapid + 2 Single 25mm
-The electronic structure will include Selex Sistemi Integrati EMPAR + AESA radar of CICS Athena-C + navigation radar and flight control by -gosopoznavaniya SIR + Communication system supplied by Selex Elsag + EW systems produced by Elettronica and Thales + two SCLAR-H decoy launchers
-The Algerian helicopter landing ship dock can accommodate 3 Landing Craft Mechanized (LCM) + 3 small Landing Craft Vehicle Personnel (LCVP) + 1 large Landing Craft Personnel (LCP) + 2 semi-rigid boats. The garage can accommodate up to 15 armored vehicles.
-The crew = 150 people
-The landing force = 440 people
-The launching of the ship is scheduled for December 2013, with the transfer to the Algerian Navy in September 2014.

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http://www.asdnews.com/news/37153/Alger ... Navali.htm
http://www.dedalonews.it/it/index.php/0 ... i-di-euro/

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La cerimonia a Riva Trigoso per il taglio della prima lamiera della nave Lpd commissionata dalla Marina Militare Algerina La cerimonia a Riva Trigoso per il taglio della prima lamiera della nave Lpd commissionata dalla Marina Militare Algerina
Taglio della prima lamiera, questa mattina a Riva Trigoso, della nuova Lpd da 8 mila tonnellate commissionata a Fincantieri dal governo algerino. Mentre a Sestri Ponente i lavoratori protestano per la sopravvivenza dello stabilimento navale, nel cantiere militare una breve cerimonia ha dato il via alla costruzione della nave, simile alla San Giorgio, che fara' parte della flotta della Marina Militare Algerina.
http://www.ansa.it/mare/notizie/rubrich ... 90616.html

Enhanced S.Giusto (export)
8.800 t
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Fincantieri was also showcasing at DIMDEX the model of 8,800t LPD built for the Algerian navy, capable of conducting both amphibious and logistic support missions.
http://www.esdpa.org/2012/04/the-third- ... s-markets/

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KRATOS a écrit :
Fincantieri was also showcasing at DIMDEX the model of 8,800t LPD built for the Algerian navy, capable of conducting both amphibious and logistic support missions.
http://www.esdpa.org/2012/04/the-third- ... s-markets/

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Y a quelque chose qui m'etonne beaucoup sur cette maquette les gars, le mat sur lequel est monté le radar ressemble beaucoup aux radars à 4 faces fixes qu'à un radar rotatif de type FREMM italienne :!:

Je crois bien qu'il y anguille sous roche ;)
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C'est l'EMPAR, le même radar que les FREMM :)

Edit : Oui je vois ce que tu veux dire ;) ..... l'EMPAR AESA existe :twisted: il s'appelle même ....... C-HOUND :twisted:

:arrow: La dernière version de l'EMPAR
Abstract

The paper deals with the SELEX-SI Transmit/Receive Module (TRM) technology and related radar applications. Since the end of '90s SELEX-SI started its activities on the active technology, establishing a 20 years Road Map including GaAs and GaN components and evolving through the increase of effective generated power and efficiency, and through the decrease of Noise Figure for sensors applications. The Road Map is comprehensive of a large frequency band interval, with specific attention to C and X band. As far as it concerns the G band radar sensor application of the active technology, this paper describes Selex-SI Active EMPAR (in the future named C-HOUND) and KRONOS radars. KRONOS and Active EMPAR are multifunctional, multi-role G-Band radars based on Active Electronically Scanned Antenna (AESA). Active EMPAR is designed as a technologic upgrade of the SELEX Sistemi Integrati well proven EMPAR Multifunctional radar system provided to the Italian and French Navies. In this paper the two radar features will be detailed in terms of implemented technical and technological solutions and related advantages in surveillance, tracking and other functionalities required for a Combat System.
http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login ... ision=-203
The C-Hound is a multifunctional C-Band radar with a full solid-state active phased array antenna which counters new generation threats in every kind of ECM (Electronic Counter Measures) and severe clutter environments. It operates at C-band, performing concurrently 3D detection, multiple target tracking and missile guidance
http://www.defesanet.com.br/laad2011/no ... -LAAD-2011

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anzar a écrit :C'est l'EMPAR, le même radar que les FREMM :)

Edit : Oui je vois ce que tu veux dire ;) ..... l'EMPAR AESA existe :twisted: il s'appelle même ....... C-HOUND :twisted:

:arrow: La dernière version de l'EMPAR

Ben on dirait bien un janus bis :face:
C'est exactement ce que je voulais dire :cheers:

L'Empar de la FREMM et celui agrandi de la maquette, qui ressemble àau i-mast de Thales si vous voyez ce que je veux dire:

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Not just a Landing Ship...... not just a Logistic Support Ship...... not just a Combat Vessel.......

First steel cut as a first step of a new era

A NEW CONCEPT OF VESSEL

The recent steel cut ceremony held at Riva Trigoso Shipyard of FINCANTIERI was not normal routine, but a very special event, under many points of view.

First of all, it is the start-up of the first 'foreign' contract for Orizzonte Sistemi Navali. As a matter of fact, Orizzonte was born in Europe, not just in Italy, being the Italian Prime Contractor of the FREMM Frigates, the biggest ever European Naval Programme, developed by the Italian and the French Navy. And Orizzonte is currently concentrated on this Programme, with the second Frigate being launched now, the first one under sea trials and two more presently in construction.

Orizzonte has also just completed the Programme of mid-life modernization of the two Destroyers of the Italian Navy ('Durand De La Penne Class), so inevitably the next step had to be the international market. And the goal was achieved in a friend Country of the opposite side of the Mediterranean Sea, and with a very special ship, that makes the start-up ceremony of steel cut a very special event.

It is difficult to name this type of ship. Apparently, it has the look of an LPD, and the profile of the ship is very close to the 'San Giorgio' or 'San Giusto' LPDs of the Italian Navy. It is a ship 143 m long, with a beam of 21.5 m, a displacement of about 9,000 ton. It has a flight deck for helicopters stretching from stern to bow, and a garage deck for fifteen tanks, three Landing Craft Mechanized, three Landing Craft Vehicle Personnel, one Landing Craft Personnel and two boats type RHIB. It has a crew of 150, with a capacity of transporting 440 soldiers for landing operations.

More than an LPD

No doubt, in the end, that it is an LPD. A special LPD, in some way, since it is also provided of an elevator for 30 ton helo, with room for five helicopters under deck, and contains a hospital with 50 beds, surgery room, dental clinic. But when we go to examine the Combat System, we encounter a number of surprises. A 'normal' LPD has few small calibre machine-guns to counter small boats, a traditional Surveillance Radar and maybe some Electronic Countermeasures. This 'Landing Ship', instead, overthrows old habits, breaks ancient patterns, and takes the characteristics of a true Flagship.

First of all, the Surveillance Radar is not just the usual 2D Radar, normally installed on-board an LPD, not even a 3D Radar (which would be already unusual), but also Multifunctional, able to track the target while carrying out surveillance function, thanks to an Active Electronically Scanned Array. It is the powerful EMPAR, produced by Selex Sistemi Integrati (performing the Combat System Integration), the radar installed on-board the Horizon and FREMM Destroyers. And also the rest of the weapon suite is very close to the one of Horizon and FREMM: the Missile System is the ASTER 15, with sixteen missiles in two SYLVER Vertical Launchers. One 76/62 Super Rapid Gun of OTO Melara, with two 25 mm machine guns, constitute the gun suite, managed by the same NA 25 FCS of Selex SI as installed on board the Horizon and FREMM ships. An integrated Electronic Warfare System from Thales/Elettronica, associated to two chaff-flares launchers SCLAR-H, like in the FREMM ships, ensures full EW operation, while the Telecommunications System is from Selex Elsag.

It is clear, in the end, that this type of ship, besides its 'traditional' missions of amphibious operation and logistic support, is fully equipped for managing additional types of mission, such as air and naval defence, C4I operations for air and naval crafts, rescue and relief to civilian populations.
The ship is powered by two Diesel Engines, assuring a speed of 20 knots and a range of 6,000 miles.

A true revolution, a true challenge

We are facing a true revolution, out of the usual schemes of OPV for patrol functions, Corvettes and Frigates for Combat and escort missions, Destroyers as Flagship and fire power, LPDs for Landing and Logistic Support missions, where each type of ship needed the other types for co-ordinated support. The requirement of the Customer was for something different, something new, something more advanced, more complete. And such a revolution represents also a challenge for Orizzonte Sistemi Navali. The motto of the Company, in all its brochures and ads, is 'Commitment and Flexibility'. Good, nice motto, easy to write, easy for showing the flag. Difficult to apply, difficult to put into practice, when you are in front of a real, new requirement breaking old habits.

A brave Customer, full of imagination and creativity, met a flexible Company, able to meet such important challenge and to provide the proper answer. Now the ball is in the hands of Orizzonte Sistemi Navali. After showing its Flexibility in providing the proper answer, after the steel cut, it is now time to show its Commitment. The Commitment of providing an effective, comprehensive Vessel in the proper time frame. A new great challenge, that Orizzonte is proud to take up, and sure to fully satisfy.

Wednesday, April 4, 2012 - 10.46 a.m.
http://www.orizzontesn.it/page.php?id_page=23#id


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Oui ça va mais il lui manque quelques chose de puissant, l'Aster-15 je trouve que c'est un peu léger, ils auraient du prendre des Aster-30 aussi et pourquoi pas, un complexe KH-41! Je crois que c'est ça notre navire Amiral!
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managed by the same NA 25 FCS of Selex SI as installed on board the Horizon and FREMM ships.

http://www.selex-si.com/EN/Common/files ... /NA25X.pdf

An integrated Electronic Warfare System from Thales/Elettronica
En collaboration avec Sigen, société commune de Thales et Elettronica, Thales équipe les frégates FREMM de systèmes de guerre électronique de dernière génération. Thales fournit les mesures de support électroniques (ESM) qui permettent non seulement à la frégate d’anticiper les menaces avant qu’elle ne puisse elle-même être détectée, mais aussi d’optimiser son appréciation de la situation et de recueillir des renseignements cruciaux.
Ce système novateur intègre des fonctionnalités opérationnelles clés, qu’il s’agisse d’un haut niveau de sensibilité, d’une goniométrie de haute précision ou de récepteurs numériques large bande. Ces senseurs incluent des systèmes ESM pour radars (R-ESM) et communications (C-ESM), assurant ainsi une détection précoce des menaces et une alerte immédiate. Ils contribuent également à l’appréciation globale de la situation en permettant d’identifier les émetteurs, de signaler des activités nouvelles et de générer des renseignements électromagnétiques en temps réel.
Via la société Elettronica, Sigen fournit également le système de brouillage et de leurrage. Le système R-ECM (Radar Electronic Counter Measure) est la solution électronique retenue pour contrer les émetteurs adverses. Ce système actif apporte une contribution majeure à la défense ponctuelle et élargie, et se montre capable de leurrer et d’attirer les missiles loin de leurs objectifs.
Le système de guerre électronique est réalisé par la société Sigen, qui rassemble les sociétés Thales et Elettronica. Ce système comprend
- un système de capteurs ESM assurant la surveillance de l’environnement, la détection, la localisation et la classification des menaces,
- un système de brouilleurs
- un système de capteurs assurant l’interception des émissions de communications, la localisation de ces émissions et leur classification
http://www2.thalesgroup.com/blogs/euron ... c-warfare/http://www.defense.gouv.fr/dga/equipeme ... ions-fremm

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KRATOS a écrit :
Not just a Landing Ship...... not just a Logistic Support Ship...... not just a Combat Vessel.......

First steel cut as a first step of a new era

A NEW CONCEPT OF VESSEL

The recent steel cut ceremony held at Riva Trigoso Shipyard of FINCANTIERI was not normal routine, but a very special event, under many points of view.

First of all, it is the start-up of the first 'foreign' contract for Orizzonte Sistemi Navali. As a matter of fact, Orizzonte was born in Europe, not just in Italy, being the Italian Prime Contractor of the FREMM Frigates, the biggest ever European Naval Programme, developed by the Italian and the French Navy. And Orizzonte is currently concentrated on this Programme, with the second Frigate being launched now, the first one under sea trials and two more presently in construction.

Orizzonte has also just completed the Programme of mid-life modernization of the two Destroyers of the Italian Navy ('Durand De La Penne Class), so inevitably the next step had to be the international market. And the goal was achieved in a friend Country of the opposite side of the Mediterranean Sea, and with a very special ship, that makes the start-up ceremony of steel cut a very special event.

It is difficult to name this type of ship. Apparently, it has the look of an LPD, and the profile of the ship is very close to the 'San Giorgio' or 'San Giusto' LPDs of the Italian Navy. It is a ship 143 m long, with a beam of 21.5 m, a displacement of about 9,000 ton. It has a flight deck for helicopters stretching from stern to bow, and a garage deck for fifteen tanks, three Landing Craft Mechanized, three Landing Craft Vehicle Personnel, one Landing Craft Personnel and two boats type RHIB. It has a crew of 150, with a capacity of transporting 440 soldiers for landing operations.

More than an LPD

No doubt, in the end, that it is an LPD. A special LPD, in some way, since it is also provided of an elevator for 30 ton helo, with room for five helicopters under deck, and contains a hospital with 50 beds, surgery room, dental clinic. But when we go to examine the Combat System, we encounter a number of surprises. A 'normal' LPD has few small calibre machine-guns to counter small boats, a traditional Surveillance Radar and maybe some Electronic Countermeasures. This 'Landing Ship', instead, overthrows old habits, breaks ancient patterns, and takes the characteristics of a true Flagship.

First of all, the Surveillance Radar is not just the usual 2D Radar, normally installed on-board an LPD, not even a 3D Radar (which would be already unusual), but also Multifunctional, able to track the target while carrying out surveillance function, thanks to an Active Electronically Scanned Array. It is the powerful EMPAR, produced by Selex Sistemi Integrati (performing the Combat System Integration), the radar installed on-board the Horizon and FREMM Destroyers. And also the rest of the weapon suite is very close to the one of Horizon and FREMM: the Missile System is the ASTER 15, with sixteen missiles in two SYLVER Vertical Launchers. One 76/62 Super Rapid Gun of OTO Melara, with two 25 mm machine guns, constitute the gun suite, managed by the same NA 25 FCS of Selex SI as installed on board the Horizon and FREMM ships. An integrated Electronic Warfare System from Thales/Elettronica, associated to two chaff-flares launchers SCLAR-H, like in the FREMM ships, ensures full EW operation, while the Telecommunications System is from Selex Elsag.

It is clear, in the end, that this type of ship, besides its 'traditional' missions of amphibious operation and logistic support, is fully equipped for managing additional types of mission, such as air and naval defence, C4I operations for air and naval crafts, rescue and relief to civilian populations.
The ship is powered by two Diesel Engines, assuring a speed of 20 knots and a range of 6,000 miles.

A true revolution, a true challenge

We are facing a true revolution, out of the usual schemes of OPV for patrol functions, Corvettes and Frigates for Combat and escort missions, Destroyers as Flagship and fire power, LPDs for Landing and Logistic Support missions, where each type of ship needed the other types for co-ordinated support. The requirement of the Customer was for something different, something new, something more advanced, more complete. And such a revolution represents also a challenge for Orizzonte Sistemi Navali. The motto of the Company, in all its brochures and ads, is 'Commitment and Flexibility'. Good, nice motto, easy to write, easy for showing the flag. Difficult to apply, difficult to put into practice, when you are in front of a real, new requirement breaking old habits.

A brave Customer, full of imagination and creativity, met a flexible Company, able to meet such important challenge and to provide the proper answer. Now the ball is in the hands of Orizzonte Sistemi Navali. After showing its Flexibility in providing the proper answer, after the steel cut, it is now time to show its Commitment. The Commitment of providing an effective, comprehensive Vessel in the proper time frame. A new great challenge, that Orizzonte is proud to take up, and sure to fully satisfy.

Wednesday, April 4, 2012 - 10.46 a.m.
http://www.orizzontesn.it/page.php?id_page=23#id

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfqqsv7o ... ature=plcp
Un superbe article plein d informations inedites mais qui semble etre passé inapercu , merci Kratos pour cette trouvaille
radio procedures, airmanship , and decision making in flight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIUBVE1bUnI
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It's not just a Landing Ship, the AESA EMPAR makes it as a floating AWACS which will be used as our primary early warning asset :algerie01:
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KRATOS a écrit :It's not just a Landing Ship, the AESA EMPAR makes it as a floating AWACS which will be used as our primary early warning asset :algerie01:
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