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Message par **KRATOS** » 19 juin 2012, 07:45

Finally

they were begging the U.S for used M1A1 (with no depleted uranium armor, no ERA and no Blue Force tracking system :hmar:) since 2006 !

Message par **scorpion-rouge35** » 19 juin 2012, 08:51

si le contrat se concrétise félicitation mais l'article parlent bien de simple M1A1 .
quoi que rien n’empêcherait le Maroc de les modernisé petit a petit après leurs acquisition .

Message par **KRATOS** » 19 juin 2012, 09:18

17/06/2012

"I don't want to overplay or underplay the situation," Mr. Kotchman said. "There is [an] order for Morocco that we have reason to believe will occur; we just don't know when the timing of that will be. What we're trying to do is balance the minimum sustainment rate with enough domestic work

http://www.toledoblade.com/business/201 ... iatus.html

Message par **Atlasbear** » 19 juin 2012, 10:28

Gendarmerie royale dans le Kosovo

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjy53_TAwbI[/video]

Message par **saf** » 19 juin 2012, 11:51

le congrès américain a jours pour s'opposer, passer ce délais le contrat est confirmé

Message par **Youma** » 19 juin 2012, 13:08

scorpion-rouge35 a écrit :si le contrat se concrétise félicitation mais l'article parlent bien de simple M1A1 .
quoi que rien n’empêcherait le Maroc de les modernisé petit a petit après leurs acquisition .

Il n'y a rien de simple M1A1.

http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/abrams.htm

Some capabilities unique to the SA/ED model include the armor enhancements, remote thermal sight and the tank infantry phone. Aside from the monitoring and sensor technology inserted into the tank's situation awareness system, Soldiers will take advantage of the latest AGT-1500 engine upgrades and the tank urban survivability kit, or TUSK.

Artillery repairer Von Boykins has been testing M1 turrets for three years and said though there is little difference between the SA/ED model and other M1 variants, "the biggest difference is the updated sights."

http://www.army.mil/article/17811/armys ... -anniston/

Morocco requests US for upgrade of M1A1 Abrams tanks
19 June 2012

The US Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) has notified Congress of a potential foreign military sale (FMS) for the upgrade and refurbishment of 200 M1A1 Abrams tanks for the Moroccan Government.

Under the estimated $1.01bn FMS programme, Morocco has also requested the supply of 150 AN/VRC-87E and 50 AN/VRC-89E exportable single channel ground and airborne radio systems (SINCGARS), 200 M2 Chrysler mount-machine guns and 400 7.62mm M240 machine guns.

The potential sale also includes more than 12 million ammunition rounds, including 1400 C785 SABOT, 1800 CA31 HEAT, 5400 AA38 SLAP-T and 200 M250 smoke grenade launchers, support equipment, spare and repair parts, personnel training and training equipment; in addition to publications and technical data, communication support, as well as logistical support services.

As part of the proposed package, the upgrades will be performed under a grant excess defence article (EDA) transfer to help support the modernisation of the Royal Moroccan Army's Abrams tank fleet, aimed at enhancing its ability to meet current and future threats.

As well as upgrading the nation's military capability, the newly configured tanks are also expected to further improve its interoperability with the US and other allies.

General Dynamics Land Systems (GDLS) will be the prime contractor for the programme, while refurbishment work will be carried out at the Anniston Army Depot in Alabama and the Joint Systems Manufacturing Center in Ohio, US.

An upgraded variant of the US Army and Marine Corps M1A1 Abrams main battle tank (MBT), the M1A1 SA features gunners primary sight (GPS), new Block I 2nd generation forward looking infrared (FLIR) technology and a blue force tracking (BFT) system for enhanced effectiveness in the battlefield.
http://www.army-technology.com/news/new ... rams-tanks

Comme je l'ai souligné il ya quelques mois,le Maroc achèterait l'un des deux configurations de M1A1,SA ou AIM,en plus,le prix est exceptionnel,

200 Abrams pour 1.015B$ pour le Maroc.
140 Abrams pour 2,16B$ pour l'Irak.
59 Abrams pour 475 M$ pour l'Australie.
Etc ...

Message par **PSG78** » 19 juin 2012, 13:33

La "possible" vente youma ! ce n'est que la version de 1985 avec 2 ou 3 améliorations , on loin du m1a2. en plus ce char consomme beaucoup et demande beaucoup d'entretien, il va exploser le budget de l'armée de terre et va sucré les fonds d'autres projets comme ceux d'une dat...

Message par **Youma** » 19 juin 2012, 13:40

Configuration SA

@PSG78
Sans aucun doute,les Américains vont financer une bonne partie du 1.015 B$.

Message par **KRATOS** » 19 juin 2012, 13:59

The real Abrams

Message par **Youma** » 19 juin 2012, 21:32

KRATOS a écrit :Finally they were begging the U.S for used M1A1 (with no depleted uranium armor, no ERA and no Blue Force tracking system :hmar:) since 2006 !

M1A1AIM v.2/M1A1SA (Situational Awareness): Upgrades similar to AIM v.1 tanks + new 3rd generation depleted uranium armor mesh.

http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/6581-d ... e__st__320

Message par **abdelK** » 19 juin 2012, 23:16

Youma a écrit :
KRATOS a écrit :Finally they were begging the U.S for used M1A1 (with no depleted uranium armor, no ERA and no Blue Force tracking system :hmar:) since 2006 !

M1A1AIM v.2/M1A1SA (Situational Awareness): Upgrades similar to AIM v.1 tanks + new 3rd generation depleted uranium armor mesh.

http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/6581-d ... e__st__320

Aucune des versions SA ne possède de blindage à l'uranium appauvri ni d'ERA, ni la version australienne et encore moins la version irakienne Youma, pourtant elles sont facturées plus cher que la possible version marocaine.

Message par **KRATOS** » 20 juin 2012, 09:25

Youma a écrit :
M1A1AIM v.2/M1A1SA (Situational Awareness): Upgrades similar to AIM v.1 tanks + new 3rd generation depleted uranium armor mesh.
http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/6581-d ... e__st__320

Are you aware that you are quoting from a forum

Except the US ARNG M1A1SA all Australian and Iraqi Abrams are downgraded without depleted uranium layers in armor (the Kuwaiti M1A2 too !)

200 M1A1 Abrams tanks would be refurbished and upgraded to M1A1-SA status, matching Iraq’s new tanks.

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/Unc ... cco-07435/

There are several items the Iraqi SA tanks will not get, that those used by American troops do have. These include no depleted uranium armor, no ERA (Explosive Reactive Armor) on the absence of some other features meant to protect against anti-tank missiles. Also missing is Blue Force Tracker (a U.S. satellite tracking system that shows the location of all American vehicles and aircraft in the vicinity.)

http://www.strategypage.com/dls/article ... 0-2010.asp

Message par **T800** » 20 juin 2012, 13:50

Youma a écrit :
KRATOS a écrit :Finally they were begging the U.S for used M1A1 (with no depleted uranium armor, no ERA and no Blue Force tracking system :hmar:) since 2006 !

M1A1AIM v.2/M1A1SA (Situational Awareness): Upgrades similar to AIM v.1 tanks + new 3rd generation depleted uranium armor mesh.

http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/6581-d ... e__st__320

ca prouve rien ca c est du pipeau hors contexte , tu veux nous faire croire que le Maroc aura droit au blindage en UA alors que meme l Australie y a pas eu droit ?

Message par **Youma** » 20 juin 2012, 14:14

KRATOS a écrit :
Youma a écrit :
M1A1AIM v.2/M1A1SA (Situational Awareness): Upgrades similar to AIM v.1 tanks + new 3rd generation depleted uranium armor mesh.
http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/6581-d ... e__st__320
Are you aware that you are quoting from a forum
Except the US ARNG M1A1SA all Australian and Iraqi Abrams are downgraded without depleted uranium layers in armor (the Kuwaiti M1A2 too !)
200 M1A1 Abrams tanks would be refurbished and upgraded to M1A1-SA status, matching Iraq’s new tanks.
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/Unc ... cco-07435/
There are several items the Iraqi SA tanks will not get, that those used by American troops do have. These include no depleted uranium armor, no ERA (Explosive Reactive Armor) on the absence of some other features meant to protect against anti-tank missiles. Also missing is Blue Force Tracker (a U.S. satellite tracking system that shows the location of all American vehicles and aircraft in the vicinity.)
http://www.strategypage.com/dls/article ... 0-2010.asp

C'est une erreur,l'Irak n'a pas acheté ou mis à niveau leur M1A1 à la version SA,c'est une version plus inférieure,la version M.

http://www.dsca.mil/pressreleases/36-b/ ... _08-98.pdf

abdelK a écrit :Aucune des versions SA ne possède de blindage à l'uranium appauvri ni d'ERA, ni la version australienne et encore moins la version irakienne Youma, pourtant elles sont facturées plus cher que la possible version marocaine.

source ???

La version australienne (AIM) a !

http://www.dsca.mil/pressreleases/36-b/ ... _04-12.pdf

il est clair,la version SA est une nouvelle version,et produit par la première fois en 2006 !

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/107 ... nks-02535/

Message par **sabot2012** » 20 juin 2012, 16:48

quoi qu on puisse dire c est un bon investissement pour les FAR pour un char testé en guerre réelle (guerre du golf 1et 2) donc ya un retour sur experience materiel + formation

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