motu et Pierrot toute a fait d'accord mais il ne faut pas oublier que la chine vance a pas de geant dans tous les domaines et spécialement dans le domaine de l'armement,les chinois ont la possibilité d'apprendre vite et surtout relèves les défis qui incombe a l'avances technologiques.
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China buys Tu-22 production line from Russia. A major threat to the U.S. aircraft carriers in the region
December 29, 2012
For the third time in 7 years (first one being in 2005, second earlier in 2012) several websites in China (link in Chinese) are reporting that China and Russia have agreed for Beijing to buy the production line for the Tupolev Tu-22M3 bomber at a cost of 1.5 billion USD.
Once in service with the Chinese Naval Air Forces the Tu-22M3 will be known as the “H-10″.
The deal struck with Russia comes with 36 aircraft (and engines): an initial batch of 12 followed by a second batch of 24 aircraft are thought to be on order.
The Tu-22 will be employed in the maritime attack role and will be used to attack targets from low level (to avoid radar detection).
The Tu-22 is a Soviet supersonic, swing-wing, long-range strategic and maritime strike bomber. It was developed during the Cold War and it is among the farthest things to a moder stealth bomber. However, it was upgraded, it will get updated with (indigenous?) systems and, with a range of about 6,800 kilometers and a payload of 24,000 kg, it is still considered a significant threat to many latest generations weapon systems.
Especially if the deal with Russia includes the Raduga Kh-22 (AS-4 ‘Kitchen’) long-range anti-ship missile.
The deal could represent a significant change in the strategic balance in the region.
The Tu-22 bombers will give China another tool to pursue the area denial strategy in the South China Sea and the Pacific theatre; a fast platform to launch cruise missiles, conventional or nuclear weapons in various regional war scenarios.
In other words, a brand new threat to the U.S. Navy in the region.
Written with David Cenciotti
http://theaviationist.com/2012/12/29/bi ... OGL9GWTbHL
Je partage vivement ton ami Pierrot sur se point sauf que les chinois avance a pas de géant dans l'industrie,si il arrive a mettre la main sur des nouvelles technologie ils pourraient révolutionnes le monde,en plus toute leur technologie militaire et a base technologie russe,très robuste et fiablepierrot1771 a écrit :C'est vrai, mon Gero, les Chinois avancent super vite, c'est même impressionant...
Mais, aujourd'hui, la technologie Chinoise ne leur permettent que de copier & reproduire.
Pardon pour la comparaison mais les Chinois sont comme des fourmis, ils représentent 1 force de travail considérable mais ils ne maitrisent pas l'ingéniérie & la création technologique.
Pour l'instant la Chine est la 1ére nation du monde en matiére d'espionage & de copiage militaro-industriel... Et ça, ils savent faire.
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J'avais apprit que les taiwanais préparer leur missile de croisière,mais de là à qu'il est une telle portée de 1200 km et par la suite plus de 2000km,me disent que soit ils ont eu une aide des états unis,ou alors ils sont vraiment très fort,car se pays il y a même pas 10 ans,ils n'avaient aucune capacité de frappe de se type là !!!geronimo a écrit :Comment la Chine peut contre cela
des nouvelles
http://n.yam.com/tlt/politics/20121220/ ... 72063.html
Ce n'est pas pour la Mauritanie par hasard ? je dis ça à cause couleurs jaune et vertgeronimo a écrit : * Pour finir, un navire destiné à l'exportation c'est surement pour un pays arabe
MAURITANIA
Image shows new Chinese-design 60-m patrol boat named AWKAR (no hull number) … built in China for the Mauritanian coast guard … all but complete (possibly even commissioned already).
En +, super le lien (j'connaissais pas :-? )
Satellites Spot China’s Mysterious New Warplane
Le Y-20 à Yanliang le 1er janvier. Photo: GeoEye GeoEye 1
A week after the publication of blurry photographs depicting what appears to be China’s first long-range jet transport, Danger Room has obtained satellite imagery of the new plane at an airfield in central China.
The images, acquired by the GeoEye 1 and IKONOS spacecraft — both belonging to commercial satellite operator GeoEye headquartered in Washington, D.C. — corroborate the general layout of the Xian Aircraft Corporation Y-20, the existence of which has been confirmed by Beijing. They also underscore the emerging consensus among Western experts that the Y-20, while outwardly impressive, could lack the performance of even much older American, Russian and European transports.
The IKONOS image (below) is dated Dec. 25. It shows the Y-20 outside a large hangar at Yanliang airfield, home of the People’s Liberation Army Air Force’s test establishment. The base is crowded with examples of the PLAAF’s other main transports, including Y-8 medium airlifters and, apparently, tanker versions of the aged H-6 bomber — both types of which could in theory be replaced by the Y-20, ostensibly giving China the same global military reach the U.S. and other advanced nations have enjoyed for half a century.
The GeoEye 1 photo from Jan. 1 (above) depicts the new transport, which isn’t known to have flown yet, on one of Yanliang’s runways, surrounded by people and vehicles. News reports have claimed the Y-20 is currently undergoing runway taxi tests in preparation for its eventual first flight.
Y-20 à Yanliang le 25 décembre Photo: GeoEye IKONOS
But even after that happens, the Y-20 will probably need lots of work. Indeed, when it comes to jet-transport technology Beijing is “falling behind, not catching up,” John Pike, an analyst with the Virginia-based Globalstrategy.org, writes in an e-mail to Danger Room.
Specifically, the Y-20 needs new engines — and there’s little evidence that Beijing is making much progress on that front. The prototype is reportedly fitted with old, Russian-made D-30 engines that probably aren’t adequate for the Y-20′s design.
The new imagery is sharper, more detailed and shot from a higher angle than the grainy first photos of the Y-20 that appeared on Chinese internet forums in late December, providing a much more reliable basis for assessing the transport’s layout. Apparently slightly smaller than the U.S. Air Force’s workhorse C-17, the Y-20 sports the same wide swept wing and T-shaped tail as the Boeing-made C-17, blueprints of which China obtained several years ago through a spy working for the Chicago-based plane manufacturer.
“In order to get the kind of range/payload capabilities you need to use this type of plane, it all comes down to the engines,” Richard Aboulafia, an analyst with Virginia market forecaster The Teal Group, emails Danger Room. “Designing a large, high-bypass turbofan is even harder than designing a combat engine [for jet fighters],” Aboulafia adds. “China shows no signs of being able to do that.”
There are only four companies in the world capable of building the kind of engines the Y-20 needs, Aboulafia says: three — GE/CFM, Rolls Royce and Pratt & Whitney — are Western companies and one is Russian. Arms controls in the West make it unlikely that Beijing will be able to source the Y-20′s motors from the former firms.
“In short, there are three possible explanations,” Aboulafia continues. ”One, this is just a prototype, or series of prototypes. Two, it will be built in series production, using a domestically-built knockoff engine that will result in a very short-range plane with a light payload. Three, they’ll do a deal with the Russians to start importing engines that can turn this into a Chinese copy of a former Soviet transport design.”
But even a copy of an older Soviet transport would likely feature only modest performance compared to more modern, unique designs. Moreover, Russia has been reluctant lately to sell engines to China, justifiably fearing that Beijing’s engineers will illegally reverse-engineer the motors.
All of which means the Y-20, so far, is more show than substance — an intriguing subject for internet forums and passing satellites, but not yet a threat to the transportation dominance of the U.S., Russia and Europe.
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/01 ... transport/
La chasse chinoise décolle pour contrer des F-15 japonais
11 janvier 2013 – 16:21
La rivalité entre la Chine et la Japon au sujet des îles Senkaku/Diaoyu, dont la souveraineté est revendiquée par les deux pays, ainsi que par Taïwan, est montée d’un cran, ce 11 janvier, avec l’intervention de deux avions de chasse japonais de type F-15 pour dissuader un appareil de patrouille maritime chinois Y-8 de survoler l’archipel contesté.
Sauf que, si l’aviation chinoise n’avait pas réagi lors d’un incident similaire en décembre dernier, il en est allé autrement cette fois-ci car les F-15 japonais ont été contrés par deux chasseurs J-10.
L’envoi de ces appareils a été confirmé par un responsable du ministère chinois de la Défense lors d’une conférence de presse. Ce dernier, qui n’a cependant pas précisé si les deux J-10 ont survolé les îles Senkaku/Diaoyu, a indiqué qu’il s’est agi pour l’aviation chinoise de “contrer et surveiller” les F-15 japonais qui “exerçaient une pression sur le patrouilleur Y-8.”
http://www.opex360.com/2013/01/11/la-ch ... -japonais/
